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S1E9: Liberty with Valéry Giroux

Claudia talks to Valéry Giroux about liberty and how it relates to animals and the law. Valéry unpacks some of the debates and tensions that arise when thinking about liberty, the different types of liberty there are and also how she envisions the law could better serve animals’ freedom by acknowledging them as persons with rights.

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Recorded: 26 June 2020

Valéry Giroux has an academic training in law and is a doctor in philosophy. She is one of the two coordinators of the Center for research in ethics (a Quebec interuniversity center), where she does research in animal ethics. She is also an adjunct professor at the Faculty of Law of University of Montreal, and a Fellow of the Oxford Centre for Animal Ethics. She regularly gives conferences and speaks in the media about animal rights, animal ethics and veganism. She is the author of the books Contre l'exploitation animale (L'Âge d'homme) and Le Véganisme (Puf, co-authored), both published in 2017. In the same collection as the latter, she just published another book, this one on antispeciesism.

"[T]he shift from the condition of objects to that of subjects of legal rights does not appear as a point of arrival but rather as the initial access to the circle of possible beneficiaries of that “egalitarian plateau” from which contemporary political philosophy starts in order to determine any more specific individual rights....“[T]he normative force of the demands of the expanded theory entails a commitment not only to avoid participating in, but also to oppose, present discrimination. And this because the institutional denial of fundamental rights to beings that are entitled to them does not simply deprive the victims of the objects of their rights, but is a direct attack on those very rights themselves. In other words, such a denial subverts not merely what is right, but the very idea of justice" - Paola Cavalieri, The Animal Question.

Thank you to Animals in Philosophy, Politics, Law and Ethics (A.P.P.L.E) for sponsoring this podcast; Gordon Clarke (Instagram: @_con_sol_) for the bed music, Jeremy John for the logo. This episode was edited and produced by the host Claudia Towne Hirtenfelder.

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