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S1E7: Animal Warfare Law with Saskia Stucki

Claudia speaks to Saskia Stucki, who sees overlaps between International Humanitarian Law and Animal Welfare Law as providing fertile ground for legal conceptual development. Saskia Stucki believes ‘Animal Warfare Law’ offers a way forward for considering how animal welfare and animal rights could better complement one another.

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Recorded: 6 May 2020

Claudia speaks to Saskia Stucki, who sees overlaps between International Humanitarian Law and Animal Welfare Law as providing fertile ground for legal conceptual development. Saskia Stucki believes ‘Animal Warfare Law’ offers a way forward for considering how animal welfare and animal rights could better complement one another.

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"“The comparison with the Law of War acutely spotlights and puts into proportion the scale and intensity of instrumental violence sanctioned by Animal Welfare Law. Whereas International Humanitarian Law is fundamentally based on a distinction between combatants and civilians and designates combatants as the only lawful targets of intentional injuring and killing. A comparable principle distinction is lacking in Animal Welfare Law. All animals are the lawful targets of instrumental violence. It is worth pausing over this disparity. It signifies that Animal Welfare Law indiscriminately exposes mostly docile, helpless, passive animals to this same quality of violence that International Humanitarian Law firmly reserves for combatants who are actively engaged in armed hostilities. Put differently, in terms of the heightened level of legally allowed violence the treatment Animal Welfare Law accords to exploited animals resembles the treatment that International Humanitarian Law accords to enemy combatants . Potentially and tellingly the law thus treats animals , who are more like civilians in terms of their non-involvement in any hostilities like putative or quasi combatants" (Saskia Stucki).

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Thank you to Animals in Philosophy, Politics, Law and Ethics (A.P.P.L.E) for sponsoring this podcast; Gordon Clarke (Instagram: @_con_sol_) for the bed music, Jeremy John for the logo. This episode was edited and produced by the host Claudia Towne Hirtenfelder.

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