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S1E3: First Possession with Angela Fernandez

In this episode Claudia talks to Angela Fernandez about the legal concept of ‘First Possession’ also delving into the significance of historical research in considering animals and the law

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Recorded: 24 January 2020

Angela Fernandez is a Professor at the Faculty of Law, University of Toronto, cross-appointed to the Department of History. She is the author of a book-length study on Pierson v. Post, the famous first possession case often used to begin the study of American (and sometimes Canadian) property law: Pierson v. Post, the Hunt for the Fox: Law and Professionalization in American Legal Culture (New York: Cambridge University Press, 2018). She is an Associate Editor (Book Reviews) for Law and History Review. She is on the Board of Directors for Animal Justice Canada, a Fellow of the Oxford Centre for Animal Ethics, and a member of the Brooks Animal Studies Academic Network (BASAN) with the Brooks Institute for Animal Law and Policy.

"Melville is ultimately … [making a] point about humanity, namely that we are all loose fish (i.e. free) and fast fish (i.e. colonized or owned in some sense). So the surfs, the slaves, the poor widows, the bankrupts, and even the archbishops and the dukes are fast fish held so by their owners, their creditors, their fancy houses, annual incomes, and other property. Possession is not just half of the law, it is often the whole of the law” (Angela Fernandez, Pierson and Post).

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Thank you to Animals in Philosophy, Politics, Law and Ethics (A.P.P.L.E) for sponsoring this podcast; Gordon Clarke (Instagram: @_con_sol_) for the bed music, Jeremy John for the logo. This episode was edited and produced by the host Claudia Towne Hirtenfelder.

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