Bonus: Haunting with Kathryn Gillespie
Claudia talks with Kathryn Gillespie about “haunting” as a way to notice how harm and care shape everyday human–animal relationships. They discuss everything, from feeding urban crows to grieving orcas and lab beagles learning what grass feels like. They consider the role of attentiveness in relations with animals and ask what becomes visible when we stop treating violence as background noise.

About Kathryn Gillespie
Kathryn Gillespie, PhD, is a writer, researcher, and educator dedicated to understanding the relationships of harm and care humans have with other animals. Her work invites readers to reflect on their own connections and disconnections with animals and the natural work and imagine a path to gentler futures. She is the author of The Sound of Feathers: Attentive Living in a World Beyond Ourselves and The Cow with Ear Tag #1389. She lives at the end of the world with a wonderful human, three senior rescue horses, and a donkey with a big personality. Learn more about Kathryn via her website.

Featured:
The Sound of Feathers by Kathryn Gillespie
The Cow with Ear Tag #1389 by Kathryn Gillespie
The afterlives of the lively commodity by Kathryn Gillespie
Playing Possum by Susana Monsó
Animals and the Right to Politics by Sue Donaldson and Will Kymlicka
Ghostly Matters by Avery F. Gordon
The Spectralities Reader edited by Maria del Pilar Blanco and Esther Peeren
How to do nothing by Jenny Odell



Thank you to Animals in Philosophy, Politics, Law and Ethics (A.P.P.L.E) for sponsoring this podcast, to Jeremy John for the logo and Gordon Clarke or the bed music. Thank you to Christiaan Menz for his editing work. This podcast is produced and hosted by Claudia Towne Hirtenfelder


